Fr. Rob Jack and our friend Dr. Erin Brewer, founder of Advocates Protecting Children, discuss Detransitioner Awareness Day, the dangers kids face from forces trying to suck them into the transition craze, and how parents can help prevent this from happening to their children.

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Fr. Jack: With us now is Dr. Erin Brewer, and she is the founder of Advocates Protecting Children, which is a nonprofit dedicated to helping children and parents, churches and other organizations escape the entire transgender ideology and fight the gender medical industry. Dr. Brewer, thank you so much for being with us today.

Dr. Brewer: Well, thank you for having me. And thank you for covering this important issue.

Fr. Jack: It is very important. And I guess I didn’t realize that March 12th this year is Transgender Day of What is it, visibility or something? And we’re going to have what we call the Detransition Awareness Day. And that’s what this talks we’re going to be kicking off, huh?

Dr. Brewer: Right. It’s really important that people are aware of the incredible harms that have taken place that these detransitioners have had to endure. And so by holding a detransition day of awareness, we’re hoping to shine some light on it because a lot of people really don’t understand how profoundly damaged people are who have gone through the medical transition.

Fr. Jack: I know it is really a tragedy that people are trying to get the news out, who are who have recognized that what they had gone through was it was manipulation or they made the wrong decision. And no one in the mainstream media will cover it because they don’t want to hear about the failures. They don’t want to hear about the duplicity of this.

As you put it, the gender medical industry. And so there are a voice at Catholic radio and other places is going to have to make known.

Dr. Brewer: Yeah, it’s really important that we do our best to get the information out there because as you said, mainstream media refuses to cover this and these detransitioners are being completely denied. I was at a hearing in Nebraska and heard the horrific story of a young woman named Luka who had her breast removed when she was just 16.

After very little evaluation and then was put on hormones. And she has horrible regret about this. And a few days later, after she had testified, one of the legislators there said these trans these surgeries don’t ever exist. And in Nebraska, it never happens. And yet, just a couple of days prior, Luka had told her very compelling story about what had happened to her.

So even when detransitioners are telling what happened, oftentimes they’re ignored or their reality is denied. And so it’s really important for us to do everything we can to raise awareness and to support these detransitioners, especially those who went through a medical transition as children and were completely betrayed by the health care professionals who were supposed to be helping them.

Fr. Jack: I don’t understand why Congress doesn’t pass a law. I mean, they don’t pass many laws. And some of the laws are pretty goofy. But no child under 18 ought to be. I mean, just for the sake of the good of the citizen to be allowed to go through any of this because there’s no justifiable medical or psychological reason for it. 

Dr. Brewer: Right. It’s really medicalized self harm. These are kids who oftentimes have significant mental health issues, oftentimes struggles with trauma. And rather than getting the help they need to, you know, manage their very difficult feelings, they’re basically told that the only way they can survive is to kill who they are and become somebody else. And that’s a that’s a horrific message to give to anybody.

But these children. That’s the only message that they’re getting. And so another aspect of the Detrans Awareness Day is for those who are struggling with difficult feelings to let them know that transition is not the solution, that the results oftentimes are just devastating. We have higher suicide rates among those who have medically transitioned. The rates of mental health complications and long-term physical complications are tremendous.

These kids are medicalized for life. That’s not a solution. And so we need to also, you know, as part of the Detrans awareness message, is that transitioning is not the solution, that it’s actually incredibly harmful and it’s a dangerous message to give to kids that they should transition.

Fr. Jack: And the tragedy, I think, in many ways is this is happening in some cases through the encouragement of teachers, some of whom have their own psychological problems and weaknesses and it’s almost like trying to form them into the club. But it becomes a way of some teachers that I’ve read articles on or they’ve taken on their mission to try to confuse as many young people as they can and then bring them into these terrible things so that they can suffer as they did.

And there ought to be a law against that too. But it is this this affects every level of society, whether it’s the local school district or the state Board of Education or even the national government. This is something I mean, when you have the president of the United States talking about anybody who wants to do this should be able to you know, an Ohio child cannot get his or her ears pierced because I guess there are boys that want to be, you know, tough and get their ears pierced.

You need I.D. You need all kinds of information. You need a parent present or an adult present to even do that. And yet we find in California, you know, if you want to go through this kind of thing, you can go out there and the state of California will do it even if you’re a teenager.

Dr. Brewer: Right. And they’ll pay for it. It’s really shocking to me. You mentioned the teachers and there are many schools that have policies that tell teachers that they’re not allowed to tell parents that if their child is starting to want to transition at school. And increasingly, we’re seeing a movement towards having health clinics in the school where children could access these medical interventions, which will permanently damage them.

And as you said, children can’t consent to getting their ears pierced, to getting a tattoo. They can’t often even go into a tanning booth without parental consent. And yet these teachers are trying to hide this information from parents. It’s very insidious. And as you said, there really should be a law against this because it is an incredibly invasive medical intervention.

And in any other case where there’s a medical problem, doctors use the least invasive treatment first and then they gradually add more and more invasive treatments. In this case, the least invasive treatment to help those kids who are gender confused is therapy. And that’s systematically being banned by these activists and states, they want to ban the very treatment that helps them and then put them on this medicalized path.

Fr. Jack: Yeah, I mean, talk therapy never hurt a soul. And they I mean, we’ve heard it referred to as types of abuse and these kind of things. And on the other side, I know that I know from experience some parents and some grandparents who are upset because I know a case of a grandparent who told me, you know, their grandchildren are their children and who had the children.

So basically their children have to listen to the psychologist. And the child was a little gender confused. And so they go the parents go to try to find out. And the psychologist says, well, you have to listen to the child and otherwise your child’s going to kill themself if they don’t begin to do this transitioning thing.

And so the parents feel like they’re almost being blackmailed. Well, if we don’t do this, our daughter or son might commit suicide, but they’re not told the other side that oftentimes when it’s done, I don’t know the statistics for after, but usually that that kind of action destroying and many ways their personhood you know they’ll commit more suicides before or I mean after.

Dr. Brewer: They actually have a 19% higher rate of suicide after going through medical transition. And your listeners may not know this, but I had gender dysphoria as a child. I was very convinced that I was a boy for a while. And thankfully, my school psychologist, my teacher referred me to the school psychologist to get help rather than to affirm this belief that I had.

And so you know, we have good evidence that the vast majority of children who struggle with gender confusion will have it either managed or resolved when they go through puberty, naturally. And what we’re doing now is we’re stopping that natural process whereby kids come to terms with their gender and their, you know, who they are and their sex body and feel comfortable with themselves.

And we’re medicalizing them. People may not understand that puberty blockers induce retardation. They don’t just stop the sexual development, they stop psychological development, cognitive development, all kinds of, you know, important things that children need to go through. These puberty blockers stop that. And then when they’re paired with cross-sex hormones, they are sterilized for life and they have irreversible damage done to their body.

And these are you know, oftentimes we hear kids will kill themselves if they don’t get these. And in what other case do recapitulate to a child who says, I’m going to kill myself if I don’t get what I want? It is emotional blackmail. And these poor parents are being blackmailed by the very people who they’re going to for help.

Fr. Jack: And in some cases, because these children who they find, they find a health advocate for them, and then they will threaten to take the parents to court as not suitable parents because they don’t. And I mean, and you know the cases as well as I do, especially a couple in Texas, where parents were removed as authorities of their children so that their children could go through this.

Dr. Brewer: Now, we’ve actually had cases in some states in the nation where children have been taken away from their parents because their parents have been unwilling to go along with the trans identity. And there was a horrible case in California where a child was taken away from her mother because the mother would not affirm the child and let her get on these medical interventions.

The child was put into foster care, put on testosterone, allowed to medically transition, and the child was so miserable that she jumped in front of a bus and killed herself. And that is just something that should never happen. That poor mother lost all authority over her child and now her child is dead because the state took her away from the very person who loved her the most.

Fr. Jack: We’re talking today with Dr. Erin Brewer, who is the founder of Advocates Protecting Children. And really, we’re speaking in terms of a Detransition awareness day in which we’re talking about the serious danger that the trans ideology is posing to kids who are having mental difficulties and to their families. You know, Dr. Brewer, in the midst of all this, the legislators aren’t listening.

Parents are beginning to take their children out of schools and educate them themselves or bring them to private schools. But how can we? What’s our best plan of attack for parents to protect their children from this? I mean, because it’s literally in the air you breathe. I mean, it was the ultimate irony of irony, and I couldn’t believe this.

But, you know, yesterday the first lady of the United States gave an award for Woman of the Year to a fellow who thinks he’s a woman from I think it was South America. And it’s like, you know, I just I couldn’t believe that a woman of the year isn’t a woman.

Dr. Brewer: Right. It just is shocking. And that Jill Biden, of all people, was going to celebrate this man and prioritize him over actual women. And we also saw Hershey Candy who came out with a spokesperson for International Women’s Day, a man pretending to be a woman and saying he was a woman. And that was their, you know, their campaign spokesperson.

And so it is it is insidious. I would really recommend that people talk to their kids about this from an early age. I know it’s a very uncomfortable subject, but kids are being inundated with is this on, you know, children’s TV. It’s on the radio. It’s you know, if kids are in public schools, they’re being exposed to it.

I think really the only way you can prevent a child from being exposed to it is to homeschool them and to cut off all Internet access, which is it’s awfully hard to do. And you’d also have to make sure they never went over to anybody’s house. So I think rather than, you know, trying to completely isolate a child, which can, you know, in and of itself have some difficult outcomes, is to really talk to them about this, let them know that this is out there in the same way that you would let them know about drugs or sex traffickers or other dangers in society.

To introduce it to them, to talk to them about it, to reinforce the biblical truths that people are made male and female, and to really let them know that they can talk to you about this and that this is something very dangerous that’s happening. And, you know, one of the hard things is, is that children who don’t go along with this in school are often vilified. And so you have to find a way to help to strengthen your children so that they are able to stand up for this, because it’s not uncommon for kids to get in trouble at school for not affirming their classmate.

Fr. Jack: Well, Dr. Erin Brewer again, the founder of Advocates Protecting Children, thank you so much for sharing this information. And we need to really protect our kids and really begin to work on changing this culture as best we can. We’ll link in our show notes at Sacred Heart radio.com all your information. Thank you so much for staying with us today.

Dr. Brewer: Oh, sure. It was a pleasure. And thank you so much for covering this.

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